THE INTERIOR
FOR THE DEFENDANT
CANFIELD: PETER HAAS, ESQ., ASSISTANT CORPORATION
COUNSEL
ALSO PRESENT: ARTHUR B. SPITZER, ESQ., LEGAL DIRECTOR,
AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION OF
NATIONAL CAPITAL AREA, AMICUS CURIAE
(PROCEEDINGS REPORTED BY MACHINE SHORTHAND; TRANSCRIPT PRODUCED
BY NOTEREADING.)
Thomas Toros K. Der Dourian
Official Court Reporter
6806 United State Court Reporter
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PROCEEDINGS
THE DEPUTY CLERK: CIVIL ACTION NO. 84-3552, WILLIAM
THOMAS VERSUS THE UNITED STATES, ET AL,
THE PLAINTIFF IS PRO SE.
COUNSEL FOR THE DEFENDANTS: JOHN BATES, MICHAEL
MARTINEZ AND PETER HAAS.
MR. SPITZER, AMICUS CURIAE.
THE COURT: GOOD MORNING, MR. BATES. MR. THOMAS,
COME TO THE PODIUM, PLEASE, BOTH OF YOU. JUST SO I UNDERSTAND
THE STATUS OF THIS, THE MOTION FOR A PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION
IS WITHDRAWN.
MR. THOMAS: YES.
THE COURT: AND YOUR REAL CASE IS A CONSPIRACY
CASE.
MR. THOMAS: YES, AS I SEE IT.
THE COURT: AND YOU ARE CHARGING A NUMBER OF
DIFFERENT OFFICIALS WITH INTERFERENCE WITH YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL
RIGHTS.
MR. THOMAS: YES.
THE COURT: NOW, IN ALL CANDOR, WITH YOU OPERATING
WITHOUT A LAWYER, YOU HAVE HAD DIFFICULTY, AND I HAVE HAD
DIFFICULTY, PINPOINTING EXACTLY WHOM YOU CLAIM DID WHAT TO
YOU WHEN.
NOW, RATHER THAN ASK YOU TO GO AND FILE ANOTHER,
STILL ANOTHER, MORE-BOILED-DOWN COMPLAINT OR MEMORANDUM, I
AM PREPARING, AND I AM GOING TO FURNISH YOU WITH, A QUESTIONNAIRE
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THAT WILL ASK YOU IN A FEW WORDS JUST TO CHECK OFF THE NAME OF
EACH PERSON WHOM YOU THINK VIOLATED YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
THE FORM USES THE TERM "OVERT ACT." THAT MEANS: WHAT
DID THEY DO TO YOU AND WHEN?
AND I AM GOING TO GIVE YOU SOME TIME TO FILL THAT OUT
AND FILE IT. WE WILL MEET AGAIN IN A FEW DAYS AFTER YOU HAVE HAD
AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. DO YOU FOLLOW ME, MR. THOMAS?
MR. THOMAS: YES.
THE COURT: ALL RIGHT.
MR. BATES, DO YOU HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT?
MR. BATES: I HAVE NO PROBLEM.
THE COURT: ALL RIGHT.
MR. BATES: AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOUR HONOR, ONCE
THIS TAKES PLACE, BEFORE ANYTHING FURTHER TAKES PLACE --
THE COURT: WE ARE GOING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE WE
ARE THERE. I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE IT A BITE AT A TIME.
MR. BATES: ALL RIGHT, YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: NOW, MR. THOMAS, I ALSO HAVE UNDER
ADVISEMENT YOUR MOTION FOR REDUCTION OF SENTENCE AND YOUR MOTION
FOR WRIT OF ERROR CORAM NOBIS. I WILL HAVE AN ORDER OUT LATER
TODAY ON THAT.
MR. THOMAS: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
THE COURT: VERY WELL.
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MR. BATES: YOUR HONOR, THOSE ARE NOT IN THIS CASE;
ARE THEY?
THE COURT: NO.
MR. BATES: I WAS NOT AWARE OF THEM.
THE COURT: THIS IS A CIVIL CASE, BUT HE IS HERE
ON SOMETHING ELSE, TOO.
MR. BATES: THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
THE COURT: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.
(WHEREUPON, THE COURT ADJOURNED THE HEARING.)
REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE
I, THOMAS DOURIAN, CERTIFY THAT THE FOREGOING IS
THE OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT OF THE PROCEEDINGS N THE ABOVE ENTITLED
MATTER; AND THAT IT IS COMPLETE AND ACCURATE, TO THE BEST
OF MY KNOWLEDGE AND ABILITY.
OFFICIAL REPORTER
(signed)
Thomas Toros K. Der Dourian
Official Court Reporter
6808 United Stated Court House
Washington, D.C. 20001
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